So, we’ve seen an incredible amount of venom poured on Fedor from trailer kids across America, TUFers, and beer-guzzling hillbillies on Sherdog, home of the squirrels, and now the question arises — why do these keyboard warriors hate on Fedor, the greatest HW in MMA history and THE GOAT ?
I am not here to debate subjective concepts like rankings and ethereal descriptions such as ‘unranked’ fighters, ‘top 10′, dumb UFC pricks !
Any one with some brainpower must realize rankings in MMA is simply opinion.
It is not definitive, real, and certainly has no impact on fights. Your opinion is as good as anyone’s else, because it is OPINION.
Sherdog, MMA Weekly, and every MMA fan can have their own ‘top ten lists’ and each one’s list would arguably be as valid as the next, and irrelevant to ‘who is the better fighter’, or who is the ‘top p4p fighter.’
On any given night in any MMA fight, there is always a chance for either fighter to win.
Styles can make fights, fights can be unpredictable, lucky shots can land, accidents happen.
With that said, I believe Fedor is the top HW fighter in the world based on performace, adaptability, technique, character, and heart.
No other fighter in my opinion has displayed these qualities to the degree Fedor has and attained a record he has.
Whether you disagree with my opinion is fine, as it should have no correlation to the hate Fedor receives by cock-guzzling TUFers.
I noticed this about Fedor haters- almost exclusively, Fedor haters are more pro-UFC and more of an org and Dana White supporter than other fans.
Reasons for hating Fedor mostly revolve around these people believing Fedor is ‘ducking’ UFC fighters, and/or dispute his ‘rank’, as result of pro-PRIDE fans who kept posting ‘Fedor is number 1′ for years.
The majority of these haters are clearly brainwashed by what Dana White says — as is evident by these haters saying, word for word on numerous occasions, the exact same words used by Dana White.
You have others who bash Fedor based on imaginary ‘rankings’, some of these people may really believe there is such a thing as a holy rankings, some kind of Ten Commandments.
In both cases, the hate is childish, selfish, and out of touch with reality.
I can only assume that if I had to see these bashers in person they would be likely 14-28, American, less tolerant of foreign cultures and society, white, rabidly pro-UFC and anti-everything else not American ( many of these bashers have references of ‘American over all’, etc.), and racist and xenophobic to a degree.
These people are selfish and lack a capacity for independant-thinking, and critically, ‘out of the box’ thinking.
They are only capable of thinking in narrow and limited scope of views, influenced by and brainwashed by Dana’s childish rantings and lies and their own lack of reason.
In my opinion, these people are extremely sick. Hate and ignorance together prove a laughable and ugly mixture.
In Fedor, here is a man, so humble, he looks at the floor when facing opponents.
A man who has NEVER trash-talked, a la Tim Sylvia , Phil Baroni, etc who has shown the utmost respect and dignity to fighters and fans. ( You are not a fan if you scream about rankings and imagine it is his duty to fight who you think he should fight.)
In a perfect world, hating such a person should be a crime, how can such a humble and good man, who happens to be the world’s best HW MMA fighter, be treated like a criminal and coward by these faceless keyboard warriors, these sick sick people who hate and do not reason.
If you don’t think he’s the best fine, hate the people who call him the best — when you go over that, and actually hate Fedor the man — who has never called himself the #1 fighter — you show misplace rage, and childish rantings.
My assumption, based on an analysis of these Fedor-haters, stands — an incredibly materialistic, selfish, insensitive, brainwashed, racist/xenophobic mix that is utterly disgusting when the hate is on a humble man.
These same people admire and respect fighters who gloat and brag …
Shame on you losers.
N.B — This article is very … let’s say different from my normal style of posting ! It was an old article posted on Sherdog when I was in peace negotiations with the TUFer/UFC lemmings, before I declared holy war against the Dana-sucking squirrels !
I know! Why all of the Fedor hate? I’m an American born and raised in California. No one can claim that I’m some foreigner that hates America.
Is it because Fedor is Russian and America used to have a bullshit cold war with the Russians? Who gives a fuck!
Why do people on Crocop.de talk about how Fedor is ranked 4 on Nokaut, as if Nokaut is the final fucking word on Rankings. Nokaut has Nogueira ranked above Fedor! Fedor beat his ass twice!
I will try to explain the situation and the apparent backlash against Fedor. This may be long, but please bear with me.
I want to start off by saying that I think you are confusing criticism with hatred. Nobody hates Fedor, how could they? Fedor is considered by many to be the best fighter in the world and with that title comes responsibility. The fans expect you to give them competitive fights and earn your status as #1.
I know you said that you don’t want to talk about rankings, but you have to. This is a sport and rankings are a very important aspect of the sport. Fedor is basicly undefeated, the bull shit cut stoppage should have been ruled a no contest. Fans that aren’t as knowledgable about the sport look at his record compared to Randy’s record and they come to the conclusion that Fedor would destroy Randy. But, the record is decieving. Fedor has fought three top 10 ranked opponents in his entire career. Nog, Cro-Cop, and Herring. Some people will argue that Hunt was ranked in the top 10 when they fought. I don’t agree, but even if he was, that makes it four guys ranked in the top 10 that Fedor has fought in his entire career. Compare that to Randy’s record and it is very telling. Out of Randy’s last 13 fights, 12 of them were against fighters ranked in the top 10. So it’s only natural that someone who fights top competition all the time will not have as good a record as someone who fights a lot of guys that have no business being in the ring with him.
Another reason for some of the backlash is the tactics of Fedor’s managment. Finkelstein has done so much damage to Fedor’s career and legacy, I would have fired his ass years ago. During the contract negotiations with the UFC, Finkelstein did an interview saying that one of the main sticking points of their dispute with the UFC was that the UFC wouldn’t allow him to choose Fedor’s opponents. He said that PRIDE allowed it and he thinks that the UFC should allow it as well. That statement caught a lot of peoples attention. Why would they want to choose his opponents? Why did PRIDE let them choose his opponents? This isn’t how a champion should act. A champion should always fight the best fighters available and prove to the world that he is the best. Another Finkelstein blunder in the negotiations was that he didn’t want Fedor to fight Tim Sylvia and actually wanted it worded in the contract. When Fedor was asked about this, he said that he would fight anybody, but his managment chooses his opponents and they thought that Tim Sylvia would be a bad match up for him. I don’t fault Fedor for this. I truely believe that he will fight anyone in the world. But, his managment is making him look bad by doing stupid shit like this.
Another thing that causes backlash is Fedor’s blind nut huggers. I am a huge fan of Fedor’s, but I’m not the type of fan that just follows the herd and never questions Fedor’s opponents. Some people act like he could walk on water if he wanted. It’s usually the noobs who blindly follow him just so they can appear to be cool and knowledgable to the older hardcore fans. After Fedor’s fight with HMC, all the lemmings following the herd came out of the woodwork saying that HMC was this awesome mixed martial artist who would kill anybody in the UFC and Fedor was the only one with the guts to fight him! Now, to the hardcore fans who aren’t blind nut hugging noobs, this statement was fucking hilarious. We knew that HMC only had one mma fight before fighting Fedor, and the guy HMC fought, only had two mma fights himself. Anybody with half a brain knew that Fedor would sub him with little to no effort. Then the noobs started saying “HMC would beat Tim Sylvia easily”. This statement almost made me piss myself. Bob Sapp took HMC to a very close decision in K1 for crying out loud. Tim would demolish him just like Fedor did. When knowledgable, older fans read crap like this in the forums, it makes them want to point out how ridiculous it is and that sometimes can get out of hand and seem to be bashing Fedor.
In closing, I would like to say that I love Fedor, he is one of my favorite fighters. The backlash has been caused mostly by the level of opposition he’s faced, unreasonable demands from his shady managment, and his rabid, closed minded fans. I would love to see Fedor fight two or three top 10 HW’s this year and reclaim his spot on top. Fedor is a great champ, a humble man, and a perfect ambassador for the sport. But unfortunately, he is surrounded by individuals who don’t have even a fraction of his integrity. Hopefully that changes soon.
Shit. I hate to get in an argument with you again man. But I can’t resist.
Let’s look at Randy’s Record:
Loss to Enson Inoue, Enson’s record: 11 wins 8 losses
Loss to Mikhail Illoukhine
Loss to Valentijn Overeem: Valentijn’s record: 24 wins 21 losses
2 losses to Chuck Liddel who is a weight class below him
Now, Let’s look at Randy’s Wins:
Mike Van Arsdale: 8 wins 5 losses relative no-name fighter
Tony Halme: Who only had 1 MMA fight which was with Randy
Tito Ortiz: Weight class below him
And he also built up his record with a lot of repeat fights with the same fighters such as Vitor Belfort, Chuck Liddell, and Pedro Rizzo.
I’m gonna try not to get nasty in this argument because I don’t want it to turn into all-out war like last time, but please, Randy’s Record better than Fedors? No fucking way
People like to downplay the HMC fight like it was a nothing fight. HMC was over 7 feet tall, fucking huge and had a good K-1 kickboxing record. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that he would beat Tim Sylvia’s ass considering that Sylvia relies more on his size than skill. And, I never read about Fedor’s management denying a fight with Sylvia, please provide evidence such as a link.
There’s a reason why people look up to Fedor because he’s
MMA’s version of Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods. He grew up dirt poor in Russia with nothing and became the greatest of all time.
It is insulting to Tim when people say that he only wins due to size and not skill. If that was the case then Yao Ming could win the UFC HW belt right? I bet shaquille o’neal could hangin there with Fedor! That is a ridiculous, very noobish, argument. Tim Sylvia almost sub’d Jeff Monson. He has great ground skills, he just doesn’t have to use them.
Everything I said about Randy and Fedor is true. Do you disagree that Fedor has only fought 3 top 10 opponents in his entire career? Four if you count Hunt, which I don’t.
Do you disagree that 12 of Randy’s last 13 fights were against top 10 opponents? If Fedor fought that many top 10 opponents, nobody would be questioning his legitimacy.
Elite MMA fighters should be fighting other elite MMA fighters.
Do you agree that wanting to pick your own opponents is a ridiculous demand?
All of those things about Fedors managment is true. Search the sherdog forums and you will find the links.
-If Randy is a heavyweight champion he should not be losing to fighters in lighter weight classes. He lost to Chuck Liddell twice, and Belfort once.
-Randy’s win against Randleman was probably his most notable and respectable win as a heavyweight. If Randy’s win against Randleman is significant, Why isn’t Fedor’s win against Randleman significant? You don’t even mention Fedor’s win against Randleman as being significant.
-People say that Fedor (or Fedor’s management) is dodging fights against the best heavyweights. WHY DOESN’T RANDY FIGHT NOGUEIRA? THIS IS ONLY LOGICAL. FOR RANDY TO REMAIN A LEGITIMATE #1 HE NEEDS TO DEFEND HIS TITLE AS #1 AGAINST NOGUEIRA. You want to talk about dodging fights. Randy not fighting Nog looks really bad.
-Both fighters have fought no-names. It’s just part of entertainment. Promoters and management set up fights that will make the most money, not necessarily fights that make sense. THE DIFFERENCE BEING THAT FEDOR HASN’T LOST TO ANY OF THESE NO-NAMES UNLIKE RANDY.
-Randy’s last 12 fights he has dropped down a weight class to fight top fighters in a lower weight class (and lost to them) and the heavyweights he has fought are questionable top 10 (Van Arsdale, Gonzaga not top 10 ten HW’s in the world.)
I guess you are not going to answer my question if you agree or not. I’ll ask again. Has Fedor fought more than 3 top 10 opponents in his entire career? Four if you count Hunt. Do you disagree that Randy has fought 12 top 10 out of his last 13 fights? I know that Randy has lost fights, but he has fought way more top competition than Fedor has. It’s obvious, and to deny that is just lying.
Dude, I just told you I disagree, and no Randy has not fought more top competition.
Dropping down a weight class to beat guys that are smaller than you does not gain my respect. And then to lose to guys that are smaller than you does not make you a #1 heavyweight.
I’ll repeat myself:
Gonzaga: Not top 10
Sylvia: Possibly top 10 but at the bottom
Van Arsdale: Not top 10
Rodriguez: Not top 10
Barnett: Definitely top 10 no doubt, Randy lost, Positive test for Barnett, there should be a rematch with Barnett pissing clean.
All of the light heavyweights: Liddell, Ortiz: Couture had to move down a weightclass to save his career? He had to beat up guys smaller than him? I think so. And he still lost fights against guys who are smaller than him.
RANDY COUTURE’S RECORD: 16 WINS 8 LOSSES NOT THAT SPECTACULAR, CERTAINLY NOT THE RECORD OF THE GREATEST HEAVYWEIGHT. MANY OF THESE WINS AND FIGHTS ARE REPEAT FIGHTS WITH THE SAME OPPONENTS. VERY QUESTIONABLE RECORD
Dude, just about everyone on Crocop.de who are hardcore UFC fans are giving up on Randy and now hate him. They’re asking the same questions I’m asking, Why doesn’t he fight Nogueira? Randy needs to rematch Barnett, and fight Nogueira before he even considers fighting Fedor.
Oh yeah, and I forgot why are you still not mentioning Randleman? Randleman is a win that helped build Randy’s career. So why isn’t Fedor’s win against Randleman significant?
Victor, you’re a noobzor, I bet you have a TUF lunchbox and jerked off to Never Back Down, lol.
Dude, lay off the weed, you’re jacked like your buddy Chuck.
Listen to Jiggs, wtf you talking about Randy fought 12 “top ten” in his last 13 fights ?
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
What the hell does “top ten” mean ?
Maybe it’s what Dana told you ?
Fedor beat everyone he faced, and with all due respect to Randy, Randy was KTFO TWICE by Liddell and even when fighting an injured Sylvia, and had top position, couldn’t even finish him.
I mean, I was like, WTF, why doesn’t Randy go for a choke or submission, if that were Fedor in there, he’d have submitted him.
Randy is overrated and frankly out of Fedor’s league — Fedor beat EVERYONE PRIDE put in front of him, he fought former UFC champions Randleman and Coleman, beat Nog twice, fought Hunt, Crocop, and showed more skill and talent than Randy ever has.
HAHAHAHHA, I wonder what you’ll say victor u nooblet who tried buying some stuff from Sherdog store, when Fedor smashes Randy into retirement.
LOL, TUFers and stupid “rankings” and “top ten”, those are stupid meaningless concepts !
Oh victor you TUFer, regarding Vadim — PROVE IT !
HAHAHAHAHHAHA
Show a RELIABLE source, not rumor and Sherdog bullshit, but an interview with Vadim where Vadim SAYS he didn’t want Timmeh “I shit my pants” to fight Fedor !
PROVE that Vadim said the UFC wouldn’t allow them to choose opponents — I think you’re misrepresenting what he said !
Fedor HAS fought the best champions — there will ALWAYS be new challengers around the corner.
He can beat Randy, Timmeh, Werdum, Mir, Arlovski, and still there’d be more people he’d have to “prove” himself against.
LOL, Fedor afraid to fight Timmeh and instead he fights a bigger and stronger Timmeh – a 7″2 360 ib muscular kickboxer !
Now that’s just plain hilarious ! Timmeh doesn’t submit opponents, he just stands and bangs, or lays and pray, and would get KTFO by Choi and Lebanner and Schilt.
Bob Sapp took HMC to a close decision ?? WTF fight were you watching ?
Bob was bleeding, scared, and tired, and HMC was laughing and happy after the fight !
Bob Sapp gave Nog a big beating ! MMAmath noobzor !
Tim WOULD NOT demolish HMC like Fedor — because that potato can’t submit someone off his back !
Timmeh would be knocked KT FUCK OUT ! No more bullying smaller fighters !
You’re a friggin American sucker/TUFer, brainwashed baboon!
Fedor is the best and doesn’t have to suck Dana’s cock for superficial and dumb American fans to boo and get drunk and shit.
WARRRR FEDOR !
OK you fucking dumbasses, here is Randy’s last 13 fights. The only guy who wasn’t top 10 at the time was Van Arsdale. You can’t argue facts. Fedor has nowhere near that many top 10 opponents. Go ahead and make shit up though about Zulu and HMC being top 10 and the best mixed martial artists in the world when Fedor fought them. You guys are a fucking joke. It is hilarious how uninformed you guys are. You keep asking me to do your research for you about shit that most real fans of the sport already know. Finkelstein did say those things and if you don’t believe it than that shows how much of a noob you are. I had to look up and post a pic of PRIDE’s octagon for you for crying out loud. I am done spending time looking shit up to prove you fucking idiots wrong.
Win Gabriel Gonzaga TKO (Strikes) UFC 74 – Respect 8/25/2007 3 1:37
Win Tim Sylvia Decision (Unanimous) UFC 68 – Uprising 3/3/2007 5 5:00
Loss Chuck Liddell KO (Punch) UFC 57 – Liddell vs Couture 3 2/4/2006 2 1:28
Win Mike Van Arsdale Submission (Anaconda Choke) UFC 54 – Boiling Point 8/20/2005 3 0:52
Loss Chuck Liddell KO (Punches) UFC 52 – Couture vs Liddell 2 4/16/2005 1 2:06
Win Vitor Belfort TKO (Doctor Stoppage) UFC 49 – Unfinished Business 8/21/2004 3 5:00
Loss Vitor Belfort TKO (Cut) UFC 46 – Supernatural 1/31/2004 1 0:49
Win Tito Ortiz Decision (Unanimous) UFC 44 – Undisputed 9/26/2003 5 5:00
Win Chuck Liddell TKO (Punches) UFC 43 – Meltdown 6/6/2003 3 2:39
Loss Ricco Rodriguez Submission (Strikes) UFC 39 – The Warriors Return 9/27/2002 5 3:04
Loss Josh Barnett TKO (Strikes) UFC 36 – Worlds Collide 3/22/2002 2 4:35
Win Pedro Rizzo TKO (Strikes) UFC 34 – High Voltage 11/2/2001 3 1:38
Win Pedro Rizzo Decision (Unanimous) UFC 31 – Locked & Loaded 5/4/2001 5 5:00
I swear victor is infected with TUFer degenerative syndrome !
FIRST, as I mentioned, this top ten bullshit is complete “bullshit”, only morons and little kids say “top ten” and “ranked” fighters.
There is no such thing as “top ten.”, it’s not a video game and what the hell does top ten mean, is there like some kind of official scoring body that ranks fighters?
No you noob, just websites like Sherdog, MMAwekly, and Nojauk and dozens of others which is THEIR OPINION.
The concept itself is dumb and when I see anyone say “top ten” or “ranked” fighters I just go and shit in the toilet and chew gum.
SECOND, noob king, in these fantasy “top ten” rankings, Gonzaga became “top ten” once he knocked out Crocop.
That means when Fedor fought Randleman, he beat a “top ten” opponent, as Randleman KO Crocop the fight before Fedor.
I’m just using the same logic the TUFers are !
How old are you victor, 16 ?
YES, Fedor has fought better fighter, shown better results, and was NEVER defeated.
Who was there to fight, when PRIDE was going bankrupt ?
You fool, Crocop and Barnett declined a fight with Fedor — so Mark Hunt and Coleman had the balls to take him on.
Matt Lindland nearly beat Rampage in a hard fought war– so-called LHW Champ and he’s submitted in minutes by Fedor.
The Randy wins you’re showing are in A DIFFERENT WEIGHT CLASS, AND HE LOST SEVERAL TIMES.
Fedor fought NOG TWICE and won – and Crocop — let’s see someone do that in the UFC first.
Fedor fights a Korean monster and wins — just because Dana brainwashed you into thinking he’s a can doesn’t make it so.
I repeat — it’s not about “Fight Finder” noob, you have to watch the fights and SEE THEIR PERFORMANCE.
Randy even when he whens does it in boring fashion, clinch, lay and pray, and couldn’t even finish Sylvia, no submission or even TKO.
Fedor has a better record than Randy or anyone else.
He’s the undefeated champ.
Nuff said.
Timmeh is a potato.
I’d pay to see Alexander Emelianenko, Hong Man Choi, or Lebanner get in a cage with him.
They’ll have to scrape Timmeh’s shit stains from the cage after it’s done !
WARRRRRRRRRRR FEDOR !
Oh, another thing, Coleman is a tough opponent.
In the last 7 years, he’s only lost to the best- Fedor, Crocop, and Nog.
He beat Shogun just before he fought Fedor .. and when he fights Fedor he gets beat up.
It shows you Fedor is madly skilled.
Coleman’s record is better than most of Randy’s opponents — and he has only been defeated by the top 3 PRIDE HWs since joining PRIDE (Coleman’s first PRIDE fight with Takada was a work, not a real loss.)
Coleman REALLY fought the best, his record is better than Randys.
He beat Gary Goodridge, Dan Severn, Don Frye, Igor Vovanchyn and Shogun – -ALL monsters at the time he fought them.
OWNED !
I guess because I didn’t know that Pride used a roped octagon in Pride 8 that I’m a noob. Wow.
Dude, You’re totally fucking losing this argument.
YOU KEEP DODGING THE RANDLEMAN QUESTION, THE NOG VS. RANDY QUESTION, AND YOU’RE NOT GIVING A LINK TO FEDOR DODGING SYLVIA BECAUSE THERE IS NO LINK, NO EVIDENCE.
YOU NEED TO GIVE UP THIS ARGUMENT. YOU LOOK REALLY BAD RIGHT NOW.
Randy dropping weight to fight guys in a lower weight class to save his career, and then losing to guys in a lower weight class, is not the behavior of the greatest heavyweight.
I feel like Sherdog just barfed a bunch of bullshit on me. Just because some douchebag that everyone respects on Sherdog told you something is true, doesn’t mean that it is. You need to look at the evidence before you blindly follow some bullshit from Sherdog.
Oh My God, You guys are complete fucking idiots. jigisraw, you say Ricco wasn’t top 10? He was the fucking UFC HW champ you complete fucking idiot! If that isn’t top 10, I don’t know what is. You show how much of a noob you are every time you open your mouth. And every fucking MMA site on the web ranked Gonzaga top 10 when Randy fought him.
You say rankings don’t mean anything because if they did, your precious Fedor would be exposed for making a career out of fighting nobodies and cans. Your idiocy knows no bounds.
Keep on believing that Zulu, Coleman, HMC, Kohsaka, Ogawa, Randleman, Nagata, and Valavicious are the best in the world that only Fedor had the guts to take on.
I’m done with this site. You guys are fucking idiots who won’t admit that you are wrong. You can’t even face the facts that Randy has fought more top competition than Fedor. But you are right, all the mma sites on the web that do rankings are all wrong and you are right. Fucking dumbass.
“Keep on believing that Zulu, Coleman, HMC, Kohsaka, Ogawa, Randleman, Nagata, and Valavicious are the best in the world that only Fedor had the guts to take on.”-Victor
DUDE, NOW YOU ARE MAKING YOURSELF LOOK EVEN WORSE. By saying Randleman was not one of the best in the world, you are saying that Couture’s Heavyweight Title was not legitimate when he beat Randleman. YOU JUST FUCKED YOURSELF ON THAT ONE.
And that’s why we’re on this websites, because we’re tired of listening to douchebags like you on other sites.
And because I’m so fucking lazy, I’m just going to copy & paste this one:
YOU KEEP DODGING THE RANDLEMAN QUESTION, THE NOG VS. RANDY QUESTION, AND YOU’RE NOT GIVING A LINK TO FEDOR DODGING SYLVIA BECAUSE THERE IS NO LINK, NO EVIDENCE.
YOU NEED TO GIVE UP THIS ARGUMENT. YOU LOOK REALLY BAD RIGHT NOW.
Randy dropping weight to fight guys in a lower weight class to save his career, and then losing to guys in a lower weight class, is not the behavior of the greatest heavyweight.
Victor has a TUF lunchbox! HAHAHAHA! Sheikh you’re the man!
Here is your fucking source on Finkelstein wanting to pick Fedor’s opponents and not wanting him to fight Tim. Now i am done with this shit hole of a site. You two can both suck each others dicks to posters of Fedor from now on because you are the only people that visit this fuck hole.
http://www.mmapayout.com/2007/09/latest-on-ufcs-negotiations-with-fedor.html
Your article looks like some douchebag from Sherdog wrote it. Your article has all of the same facts as my article with the addition of some bullshit he made up about Tim Sylvia.
This is the interview that I read from M1’s website. This is a reliable source because they actually interviewed Fedor and his management. No mention of Tim Sylvia:
Why didn’t Fedor just sign with the UFC?
To understand him is to recognize that given the circumstances, it was never a choice.
Hearing Fedor discuss the UFC negotiations and understanding his background and motivation, it is obvious that he was as likely to accept the UFC’s offer as he was to become a completely different man.
In particular Finkelchtein, Fedor’s manager, cited the harshness of the UFC’s terms and the organization’s inflexibility as two issues preventing an agreement. There were some specifics, such as the widely publicized clause that wouldn’t let Fedor compete in combat sambo and the UFC’s refusal to sign some of his Red Devil teammates.
“I never met Dana White, never spoke to him on the phone, never exchanged e-mails,” Fedor said. “However, I did read a lot on the Internet about what he said in regard to me and Vadim []. I also read e-mails that he sent to Vadim; all of his correspondence was very upsetting. The contract that we were presented with by the UFC was simply impossible, couldn’t be signed — I couldn’t leave. If I won, I had to fight eight times in two years. If I lost one fight, then the UFC had the right to rip up the contract. At the conclusion of the contract, if I am undefeated, then it automatically extends for an as yet unspecified period of time, though for the same compensation.
“Basically I can’t leave undefeated. I can’t give interviews, appear in films or advertising. I don’t have the right to do anything without the UFC’s agreement. I could do nothing without the OK from the UFC. I didn’t have the right to compete in combat sambo competition. It’s my national sport. It’s the Russian sport, which in his time our president competed in, and I no longer have the right to do so. There were many such clauses; the contract was 18 pages in length. It was written in such a way that I had absolutely no rights while the UFC could at any moment, if something didn’t suit them, tear up the agreement. We worked with lawyers who told us that it was patently impossible to sign such a document.”
Fedor is a man who fought all of his life to be independent of the system, to belong to himself and to forge his own future. He is where he is because of the people around him.
In his view the UFC offer, which was not open for reasonable negotiation, proposed that he exchange everything that makes him who he is — his team, his freedom and his future — in return for more money than anyone else at the time was making and the possibility of fighting in the strongest heavyweight division in the sport.
To forfeit the opportunity to fight in the UFC heavyweight class was also, to a certain extent, to give up what Fedor had fought for — the right to beat all of the top-tier competition, to cement his place, beyond any criticism, as the greatest ever.
The negotiations were not helped by the differences in how both sides did business. The Russians did not understand the UFC’s negotiating tactics. The lack of courtesy and personal insults upset them. Coming from a country where the decision makers are rarely in the spotlight and the most powerful men are never the loudest, the Russians did not understand the UFC’s professional wrestling-esque business and marketing model. They did not understand why the king is also the court jester and why the dirty laundry of negotiations must be aired in the harsh glare of camera flashes.
In giving up potential UFC matches against the likes of Couture, Gonzaga, Nogueira, Filipovic, Arlovski and others, Fedor dreamed of “an organization where the strongest fighters in the world compete against each other.”
M-1 Global’s initial steps toward that goal might not be satisfying. The top-ranked heavyweight in the world taking on Hong Man Choi is not a fight many fans want to see. But such a bout — as is sometimes dictated by money, exposure and fans outside of the United States who have different interests — must take place in order for more meaningful fights to be made in the future.
And those more meaningful matches — against Barnett and Couture and others — must also take place, if Fedor’s legacy as the greatest of all time is to remain intact
http://www.m1mixfight.com/info/publications/2007/12/26/finding-fedor-part-III/
Nice try Victor. A blog post from some shady blog called MMA Payout is NOT A RELIABLE SOURCE. IT IS SOME BLOG POST BY A DOUCHEBAG TRYING TO DISCREDIT FEDOR.
Let’s look at his blog post:
It is written by someone named Adam Swift. Adam Swift references an article written by “The Wrestling Observer,” Some douchebag publication written for WWE, WWF fans. AND WHEN YOU GO TO THE ‘WRESTLING OBSERVER’ WEBSITE, YOU CAN’T LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL ARTICLE!! SHADY AS FUCK! NICE TRY “ADAM SWIFT” AND NOOBZOR VICTOR!
This is my last post on this God awful site. Jigisraw, you calling someone a noob is hilarious. You said that Ricco wasn’t top 10 when he was the fucking UFC HW champ. That is a pretty noobish thing to say. You don’t know or have never heard of any of the fighters on the next fight night which is the most stacked fight night ever! Another retadedly noobish thing to say. Adam swift, who I linked to, is a mma insder who regularly does pieces for FIGHT magazine and you call it a blog by some douche bag? You are such a fucking idiot it’s hilarious. Now you are saying that you have never heard of the wrestling observer, where the story originally came from? Dave Meltzer runs the WO. He is a huge mma insider and he has broke more stories having to do with mma than anybody period, end of story. Everytime you click submit, you are showing the world how much of a stupid ass noob you are. Why don’t you do yourself a favor and take a few months to study up on mma and get to know all the major players, then resume posting. Because you really have no idea how foolish you are making yourself out to be with every idiotic post you make. I almost feel embarassed for you.
I’m foolish? Man, If Randy and Fedor ever do get to fight, When Randy gets smashed into retirement, I’m going to laughing my ass off at you.
That’s your comeback? Adam Swift is an MMA insider? Dude, how come the only evidence is some shitty little blog he wrote. Where’s his source?
WHY CAN’T YOU POST THE LINK TO THE ORIGINAL ARTICLE WRITTEN BY THE WRESTLING OBSERVER? HOW COME YOUR ONLY EVIDENCE IS A SHITTY LITTLE BLOG POST? BLOGS ARE NOT RELIABLE EVIDENCE. I COULD POST A BLOG RIGHT NOW AND MAKE UP ANY BULLSHIT I WANT.
Dude, why would Fedor be afraid to fight Tim Sylvia when he nearly tore the arm off of someone way bigger and scarier than Tim Sylvia? HONG MAN CHOI IS 6 INCHES TALLER AND 100 POUNDS BIGGER THAN TIM SYLVIA AND A HARDENED KICK BOXER. FEDOR NEARLY TORE HIS FUCKING ARM OFF. GO FUCK YOURSELF.
OWNED.
Lol! You are such an idiot. You’ve proven over and over again how uninformed you are on mma but you still keep talking like you are some mma guru with all the answers. Fedor’s managment wanted to be involved in picking Fedor’s opponents in the UFC. Finkelstein even said it in an interview. This is common knowledge for people who aren’t noobs. He also thought Tim was a bad match up for Fedor. I never said that Fedor wouldn’t fight Tim. I said that his manager didn’t want him to fight Tim. Again, this is common knowledge to real fans of the sport who actually follow what is going on. You’re a joke. After I call you out on all the stupid ass things you have said, your only response is Fedor will beat Randy, and HMC is bigger than Tim Sylvia. HaHaHaHaHa! Oh my God you are such an idiot. Shaq is bigger than Tim too. Do you think he would win in a fight as well? There is nothing more comical than a noob trying to talk tough like he knows all about mma. Anyone with a bit of sense or knowledge of the game would read your posts and laugh their asses off. Adam Swift writes for Fight magazine. Ever heard of it? It’s only the biggest MMA magazine in the country. Every time I prove you wrong and make you look like an idiot, you come back with another half assed excuse, never taking the high road and actually admiting when you are wrong. I’m tempted to copy and paste these conversations to the OT in sherdog, they will all get a laugh out of your noobish ramblings.
jiggisraw’s top 10 stupid ass noob posts (in no particular order)
1. Ricco wasn’t top 10
2. HMC is big so that means he’s a great mixed martial artist
3. Who the fuck is Dave Meltzer?
4. Who the fuck is Adam Swift?
5. I have never heard of any of the fighters on the next fight night
6. Fedor has fought more top 10 guys than Randy.
7. Pride never used an octagon
8. Zulu and HMC are top 10
9. HMC (who couldn’t even finish Bob Sapp) would beat Tim Sylvia
10. The Wrestling Observer is some douchebag publication written for WWE, WWF fans.
You are continually digging yourself deeper and deeper into stupidity you idiotic fucking noob. OWNED DUMBFUCK!
Wow, I just read over your posts again. I really do feel embarassed for you.
You should take my advice and do a little studdying up on the mma world before you make any more posts. You look really bad right now.
Alright Vic here goes:
-You want to claim that HMC is a joke, like Shaq stepping into the ring with Fedor. HMC IS A K1 KICKBOXER! ARE YOU SAYING THAT K1 IS NOT RESPECTED? DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY GREAT MMA FIGHTERS HAVE COME OUT OF K1? YOU ARE A FUCKING DOUCHEBAG.
-HMC beat Bob Sapp’s ass! Bob’s face was bleeding, Hong Man’s face didn’t have a blemish on it, and HMC won by unanimous decision! Watch the video again NOOB!
-you obviously haven’t read the Fedor interview that I posted from M1’s website that ACTUALLY ASKS FEDOR AND HIS MANAGEMENT ABOUT THE CONTRACT WITH UFC. AND YOU WANT TO CALL ME A NOOB. I HAVE A RELIABLE SOURCE. I HAVE A FROM THE HORSE’S MOUTH INTERVIEW FOR EVIDENCE, YOU HAVE A BLOG POST.
-The Wrestling Observer is mainly written for pro-wrestling fans, although they cover MMA as well. Click on Headlines, and you’ll see news about Wrestlemania, TNA, Benoit, and WWE! Don’t believe me? Go to the website! (Where actually there is NO article discussing Fedor’s management dodging Silvia)
-Ricco top ten? Ricco is 30 years old now. Hardly time to retire. WHERE’S RICCO’S CAREER NOW?
-None of your UFC buddies on Crocop.de are stoked on UFC 83, they’re all talking about UFC 84! A much better fight card! That’s my point: Dana White has too many low quality events, he needs to have fewer events with better fight cards.
Now Victor. Here’s the clencher. Remember those pesky little questions you dodged earlier in this argument?
WHY DOESN’T RANDY FIGHT NOGUEIRA? WHY DOESN’T HE REMATCH BARNETT?
And, here’s a couple of video’s for you to post for your buddies on Sherdog:
Randy submitted by Enson Inoue:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1m4oc_randy-couture-vs-enson-inoue-vt-jap_extreme
Randy submitted by Overeem 1:45 into the 1st round!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xryoy_randy-couture-vs-valentijn-overeem_
OWNED!!!!!!
Hey, look jigg, That shitty little blog just broke news of the UFC working out a deal with ESPN and possibly being on ABC. Hmmmm. I wonder how some nobody with a shitty little blog was able to break this story? It’s probably not true though because he is a nobody that you have never heard of.
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=758170
Hey Victor. Look what I found on Sherdog. So much for Fedor and his management dodging Sylvia. Now who looks really foolish.
Top ranked heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko (Pictures) will fight Tim Sylvia (Pictures) on July 19. The Russian mixed martial arts champion confirmed the bout to Sherdog.com on Tuesday.
“[Sylvia] is a good fighter, a strong fighter, the former UFC heavyweight champion, which is important,” Emelianenko said via telephone from Stary Oskol, Russia. “I am looking forward to fighting him and training hard for this fight.”
While Emelianenko was short on details, Sherdog.com has learned through sources close to the negotiations that Fedor-Sylvia would headline a card tentatively scheduled for the American Airlines Center in Dallas, the home base of HDNet Fights.
HDNet Fights CEO Andrew Simon declined to comment on the report, however sources indicate the bout will air on the Mark Cuban-owned network and is rumored to be promoted by Affliction, a clothing brand closely tied to MMA.
Affliction had been connected with Oscar De La Hoya’s Golden Boy Promotions, however a June 28 Las Vegas date has since been discarded.
Emelianenko, a 31-year-old sambo practitioner, has faced criticism from media and fans alike after a string of fights against less than stellar competition. Sylvia would represent the Russian’s first ranked opponent since his unanimous decision over Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic nearly three years ago.
Widely regarded as the top heavyweight fighter in the world, Emelianenko (27-1-0, 1 NC) was recently freed from a letter of intent binding him to the now-defunct M-1 Global promotion.
Sylvia, 32, is coming off a submission loss to Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (Pictures) in February at UFC 81. After a spirited performance that saw him batter his foe at will with strikes, Sylvia (24-4-0) eventually fell victim to a classic Nogueira come-from-behind performance and succumbed to a guillotine choke early in the third round
dude,
the only thing that seems to be sucking on this blog, is you – on fedor’s schlong!! It should really be called “I want to carry Fedor’s child”. Where is all the dirt on Dana White?!? Seriously, we get it. Fedor is an amazing fighter. And I hope he continues his winning ways. But if you call your blog ‘Dana White sucks’, dont you think you should probably post a few things about why he sucks?
Dude, you don’t make any sense. First you say that Fedor fans are “sucking on his schlong, and want to have his baby,” and then you go on to say that you want him to continue his winning ways.
So I guess it’s o.k. to want Fedor to win, but it’s not o.k. to be a Fedor fan? I think too much Sherdogger cum guzzling has tainted your brain.
no i did not say fedor fans are sucking on his schlong, i said the creator of this blog is. i am a big fedor fan, but this blog is not called we love fedor, it is called dana white sucks. and all i see is the person who runs this blog posting (a scary amount of) stuff about how much they love fedor and wish other MMA fans would be nicer to him, and nothing about how/why dana white sucks. if it was called ‘fedor rocks’, that would make sense. but it isnt, it is called dana white sucks. too much fedor, not enough dana white. simple. and jiggisraw i have nothing to do with sherdog you fucking simpleton, dont tar everyone who disagrees with you with one brush.
Dude, there’s plenty of stuff talking about why Dana White sucks. It looks like you haven’t read the other articles in this blog. Read the whole Dana White section of this blog which has 8 blog posts talking about Dana White! There are plenty of other blog posts on this site that intermittently talk about Dana White as well.
The other thing is that this is not just a dana white sucks website, it is also a Fedor fan website. I suppose Sheikh could have named the blog danawhitesucksandfedorisawesome.com, but come on man, let’s not get ridiculous.
Dude, you set yourself up to get dissed. You don’t go on a website for Fedor fans and trash the creator for being a Fedor fan and not expect someone to say something back to you.
Hi, umm Jiggi, not talking to you, talking to the person who runs this blog.
Cheers.
Fedor IS the best in the world. Why has he not fought anyone of value in the sport? because noones challenged him. Also noone from the UFC is legally allowed to face him becuase of the ufc contracts. He himself not his managers has challenged randy to a fight but dana white will not allow it. as for other top heavy weights not in ufc. who know maby theyre not ready to get their asses wooped who knows.
I aint reading all that shit!
Sum it up for a nigga!
After Fedor demolished Tim in 36 seconds, I went to the forums to find Fedor haters so that I could rub it in their faces. Unfortunately they all disappeared
Apparently they didn’t have much conviction to begin with.
The TUFers are too busy eating crow, piles and piles of crow !
Should shut them up for awhile , and when Fedor demolishes Arlvovski, they’ll shut up for good !
FEDOR FUCKING SUUUUUCKS!!!
FUCK FEDOR.